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Sam Finnemore

I'd request one, but I won't have an avenue to publish anything until next year. Might ask later.

Just as an aside, who is the source of that giant quote on the back cover?

ian

No one--that's just a design breakout... if it were a quote we would have sourced it... it was extracted separately from the main blurb to break up the text...

Danyl Mclauchlan

That giant chunk of text in quotes that appears on the back of the book where quotes traditionally appear? Why that's not a quote - it's a design breakout!

Have you ever considered a career in Labour Party PR Ian? I hear there's an opening at the Environment Ministry . . .

ian

Och, Danyl laddie...there's more than 300 footnotes and an 18 page index for you to chew through...I think there are more than enough quotes and facts already there...

ZenTiger

Danyl, what makes you think PR jobs at the Ministry for the Environment are open to people outside NZ Labour?

That's the first I heard of the idea.

ZenTiger

Scratch that, I've just paraphrased your comment! Perhaps we could instead have a chuckle on the likelihood Labour are keen to welcome Ian into their fold.

With all this alleged Global Warming, I doubt hell is about to freeze over.

peter

Ian

Do you take the opportunity the new book to develop your most revolutionary idea from "Eve's Bite". In that book, you claim basically that everybody is bisexual!!!

I would be very interested to hear other views on this opinion. In particular, is there anyone that would support Ian's thesis through personal experience. I can say absolutely categorically I am not bisexual and I know of only one person (a woman) that has shown that she is.

This is the silliest thing I have read in "Eve's Bite", but NOT the silliest by a very wide margin!!!


ZenTiger

Peter, how nice to come out as openly 'not bisexual' on this thread. Good for you.

Nice to see you are also still reviewing Eve's bite after all these days. But does it have to come up on every topic Ian posts under? Just link to the review you've done, with actual quotes of the relevant passage from your blog, perhaps.

peter

Zen

I was on topic - asking whether Divinity Code was in any way a sequel to Eve's Bite.

"And if you choose to be gay, you can equally choose not to be gay - to couch it in politically-correct liberal-speak - explore your bisexual side .." (Eve's Bite, p130)

The only way that Ian could promote this idea, confidently, and selectively quote so many who agree, is if he could relate to the above through his own personal feelings.

I am taking the alternative view. I am wagering that over 95% of bloggers here would never have been physically attracted to the same sex if they were heterosexual, or attracted to the opposite sex if they were homosexual.

Among the stars, David Bowie and Elton John both said or did things to suggest that they were bisexual. Elton John now says he was kidding and that he was gay all along. Bowie seems to be heterosexual.

Bisexuality seems to exist, but thankfully in very small numbers. Ian - if there were a loving God, I don't think God would be playing these jokes on such a grand scale as you suggest.

No this is surely an accident of evolution.

ZenTiger

No, you are off topic, by asking questions about the previous book in an effort to take the post off topic.

The only way that Ian could promote this idea, confidently, and selectively quote so many who agree, is if he could relate to the above through his own personal feelings.

Rubbish. I can think of several ways Ian could make this assertion based on the full context of what you speak about. Get your own blog, and I'll answer you there, or hope Ian comes through for you.

Bisexuality seems to exist, but thankfully in very small numbers.

And what problem do you have with bisexuality given that you seem to embrace "gay", another accident of evolution or an effect of social pressures, sexual abuse, and/or hormone imbalance?

Ian - if there were a loving God, I don't think God would be playing these jokes on such a grand scale as you suggest.

You think sexual orientation is a joke? Or is this a weak effort to disprove God? You come across confused. For an openly 'not bisexual' person you seem quite capable of holding two opposing ideas quite easily. Sure you don't swing both ways?


ian

Peter...if you have a problem with the bisexuality studies...take them up with the gay scientists who did them, or the gay icons who verified them...I'm merely the messenger, and all the studies were fully referenced just so that doubting Peters like yourself could research the inconvenient truth.

The reason thousand of "gays" quietly become ex-gays is not that they lose the same sex attraction, but that they find they still have opposite sex attraction as well if they really admit it, and then it merely comes down to the person you choose...

Personally, Pete, I think you're in denial on this...but the Greenberg study is pretty adamant...and remember, he's 'gay'.

dad4justice

Gay is a not the correct term for homosexuality, which is a mental health problem Peter .Hows Ramon ?

robk

I was waiting for peter to suggest the "design breakout" was actually a quote from the exclusive bretheren. But I see he's sidetracked again on the homosexual issue... ;-)

Ryan Sproull

What precisely constitutes a "number #1 bestselling book"? It seems to me that so many book covers I see are making the claim that there must be some monumental first-equal status going on.

Danyl Mclauchlan

Here's something else I'm curious about? Given that you describe your book as 'the ultimate slap-down, slam-dunk no holds barred title fight' with Richard Dawkins - did you bother to give Dawkins an opportunity to respond to this formidable challenge? Is he even aware that this 'ultimate slap-down' even exists?

AVG

Mr Wishart. Your cover wrongly takes a swipe at Spong & Armstrong. Neither propose any 'scientific hypothesis' as you suggest.
Spong, in 'Resurrection, Myth or Reality' and 'Jesus for the Non-religious' takes the open-minded reader into the Jewish mind of the first century. To see as they saw, to understand as they understood:- God watching them at night through his peep-holes [stars] in the sky. He then re-clothes 'that for which there are no words' in a shirt,tie and suit for this century. The divine is not in Creed and Dogma. The divine is lived.

ian

AVG, not only have I read the books in question...I have also extensively deconstructed their theses...in Spong's case particularly...

My argument...having reviewed their best explanations...is that they are demonstrably wrong on their facts...and consequently their conclusions are stuffed as well.

You can choose to believe Spong on blind faith...but not on the grounds of either logic or fact...

AcidComments

"The reason thousand of "gays" quietly become ex-gays is not that they lose the same sex attraction, but that they find they still have opposite sex attraction as well if they really admit it, and then it merely comes down to the person you choose... "

Ian.W.

Exactly!

I was in a position in Hamilton where I got know a lot of lesbians and it was often when they had thoughts or desires for dating or going out with men. It was the 'Lesbian Sisterhood' who would put 'pressure' and 'standover tactics' on the ones who were having those second thoughts!

There was also a recruitment whereby some straight women who were going through a rough patch would try and be converted to lesbianism. "Leave your husband say he's useless and get the DPB." That was often a common line used by one of the Lesbian sisterhood to tried and get new converts!

I know many other people who've had similar experiences and ancedotes with people in the gay and lesbian communities.

Ryan Sproull

The problem might be less lesbians and more Hamiltonians, Acid.

ian

Ryan...in my case more than 100,000 books sold...but the right to call yourself a #1 bestselling author, which a lot of publishing companies use to give readers some guarantee that the author can actually write, comes from hitting #1 on the bestseller lists. In NZ, they are compiled by Booksellers NZ, based on scanned sales over a given period.

You can release a book during a highly competitive period, as I did with Eve's Bite (which reached No. 2) where it was competing with cookbooks and Mother's Day promotional titles, and get a lower ranking than you would at other times of the year on the same sales turnover..

I've had three #1s and four #2s if memory and old documentation serves me correctly...

Because Divinity Code is being marketed in Australia and elsewhere where I am relatively unknown it requires more of this traditional promotional "fluff", which personally I'm not that fond of...That's the reality of marketing, however...

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