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Psycho.Milt

The reason is simple, the more fragmented the people of Europe become the more powerful the EU itself grows.

After all, the word "Balkanisation" wouldn't exist without the EU, would it? Seriously Andrei, you need to cut back on the conspiracy theories.

andrei

Seriously PM

Balkanisation first came about because of the Austro-Hungarian empires attempts to move into the lands lost by the Ottomans as the Ottoman empire collapsed.

It was if you re-call the Austro-Hungarian empire's attempt to annex Serbia that led to World War 1. After the earlier Balkan Wars Austria-Hungry had already absorbed much of the Balkans into its fiefdom including Bosnia-Herzgovonia.

Austro-Hungarian Empire, Hitlers third Reich or The EU what's the difference - Western Europe trying imposing its will on Eastern Europe.

cf This post of Lucyna's

Acid Comments

"Is the shape of Europe to come, ethnic enclaves reminiscent of apartheid South Africa?

All ruled over by the gnomes of Brussels, I fear so.

And the strange thing about this is that many of those who condemned Apartheid in South Africa are at the fore front of those who would impose it upon Eastern Europe."

Eu's probably wants to go back to the Middle Ages whereby some countries were made up of 'City States'. Mind you most of them were always warring with one another!

Or maybe they've been reading and taking a leaf out of the Philosophies of Marshal McLuhan. 'McLuhanism'. His idea of the world being made up of a series of 'Mini-States'. (from memory).

Smaller nations are easier to control. Less resources, smallers armies, etc!

Psycho Milt

Balkanisation first came about because of the Austro-Hungarian empires attempts to move into the lands lost by the Ottomans as the Ottoman empire collapsed.

And there was me thinking it referred to the locals' habit of every single ethnic group demanding their own tiny little country, and their willingness to start shooting each other at the drop of a hat. My mistake.

John Boy

Well PM, ,maybe that explains why a suited Yugoslav left his briefcase with me (a complete stranger) outside the Belgrade railway station toilet. I always thought it was because it was the most revolting men's toilet in Europe and you took as little as possible into it but maybe it was because I was a better and more honest bet than his countrymen.

reid

Just saw this: Bush OKs supplying arms to Kosovo

andrei

I saw that before Reid.

It just goes to show that nobody can be right all the time.

Acid Comments


Of interest.

Here's some new allegations of Kosovo Albanian crimes against Serbs.

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Carla del Ponte: Kosovo leaders kidnapped Serbs and sold their organs

Carla del Ponte, a former prosecutor for the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY) in the Hague, now Switzerland’s Ambassador to Argentina, made a sensational announcement. Her autobiographical book “The Hunt” reveals that Serbian men have been kidnapped and their organs were sold to international traffickers.

http://english.pravda.ru/world/europe/02-04-2008/104752-Carla_del_Ponte-0

peter

Probably wise of the US to determine that best course is to keep Kosovans and Serbs out of each others' lives.

I don't see the apartheid argument one bit though Andrei.

Emotive words like "holocaust" and "apartheid" should not be dished out willy nilly.

I can see a disadvantaged minority argument if Kosovo allowed to remain a province of Serbia. But as an independent entity I can not.

The legacy overall is that Serbians have for too long been under the impression that it is their right to organise the ethnicities and religions in the region to suit themselves. Now they must pay.

Acid Comments

"The legacy overall is that Serbians have for too long been under the impression that it is their right to organise the ethnicities and religions in the region to suit themselves. Now they must pay."

Actually Peter.

When you talk about oranising of ethnicities.

May I remind you. It was the Croatians who were the first to use and coin the phrase 'ethnic cleansing' in the Balkans!

peter

Acid Comments

More fool the Serbs for applying such philosophies within the old Serbian boundaries!

I am not aware of Croatian influence in Kosovo but if they are players as well, do tell.

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