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The Act Party has issued a pledge card, but boasts that no taxpayers have been harmed in its production or marketing.
Posted by iwishart on June 16, 2008 at 09:46 AM in Current Affairs | Permalink
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Sounds like utopia doesn't it? Only sticking point I can see is point 8, which requires a bit of elaboration. I'd be happy to give up $25/week to retain a basic A+E type public health system. Hte system we have now certainly has to change, but since there is going to be a period of some time between the pledge and the reality, while it may be realistic, it's sailing close to inhumane. The exagerated argument is that those who cannot afford emergency assistence will die, "on the street". So I'm off to find out about that.
June 16, 2008 at 10:33 AM
Sounds like utopia doesn't it?"
Why? Its just reality based sense.
"Only sticking point I can see is point 8, which requires a bit of elaboration. I'd be happy to give up $25/week to retain a basic A+E type public health system."
Too bad sucker for thats all you will get....and it will be VERY basic.
"Hte system we have now certainly has to change, but since there is going to be a period of some time between the pledge and the reality, while it may be realistic, it's sailing close to inhumane."
Of coures there will be a settling in process but tahts ne reason to do it....the sooner the better for everyone.
"The exagerated argument is that those who cannot afford emergency assistence will die, "on the street". So I'm off to find out about that."
Ever heard of a thing called private charity? Its what helps people to get back on there feet when the State isn't there keeping them dependant with your stolen,squandered taxes...
June 16, 2008 at 05:56 PM
Reality based sense
That's what I implied, dimwit.
all you'll get is basic...
That's what I want, dimwit. Nothing suckered about choosing to contribute. ACT believe in people choosing.
no reason not to do it...sooner the better
two contradictory statements.
ever heard of private charity...
Ever heard of true cost? Ever heard of the concept of insurance? Are you so dense I have to explain basic commercial ideas and english comprehension to you? What the people could (theoretically) buy from the state is a way of spreading the cost over many people for the occasional emergency mishap. And what they buy is a opportunity to implement a humanitarin value in their own country ata price anyone can afford. Do you pay your insurance company the full cost of your lost/damged goods in premiums? You must do, or perhaps you don't have insurance at all because it cushions you, the policy holder, from the true cost of reality? What are you, a complete idiot?
June 16, 2008 at 07:50 PM
The pledge card looks good. I'm sure there will be some analysis and debate of it in due course.
James, I am assuming, is saying "too little, too slow, too late" ?
I'm reminded of Hayek (given I've been reading his work recently) when he stated:
I am the last person to deny that increased wealth and the increased density of population have enlarged the number of collective needs which government can and should statisfy.
--Hayek, New Studies
We on the right might want small government, but only the mad want no government.
NotPC's mantra of "gone by lunch time" seems just a little too zealous to me.
June 17, 2008 at 01:07 AM
I am wondering if no government might be better than some. Government has turned into a farce with the ETS Bill requiring 1000 amendments. How can they know what they doing?
June 17, 2008 at 09:13 AM
We on the right might want small government, but only the mad want no government."
Who said that Zen....neither I nor PC.....Small Government limited to rights protection is still SOME government...
June 18, 2008 at 06:28 PM
When we debate small or no govt I think we get confused in that when someone says tiny govt they imply the rule of law goes out the window. I'm not sure it has to be that way (and note that parts of Sth Auckland possibly have a huge govt input yet seem to be disaster areas). A bit of common sense and healthy self esteem without drugs goes a long way I reckon. I confess I like charity - but my Church food bank has strings attached and that is as it should be. There's no free lunch.
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