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« Editorial on CFL mercury danger | Main | The launch of TGIF Edition »

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belt

I saw this one coming.

I started to write a message twice when the editorial was posted, and deleted them after deciding they wouldn't seem every positive.

It was something about the little boy that cried wolf finally coming to town with the most important message ever.

And the towns folk were so used to the little boy trying to be self-servingly sensationalist, that the important message was ignored.

Which, in this case, may be a bit of a shame, don't you think?

Personally, I haven't taken the CFLs out of their sockets just yet, but am keenly seeing where this ends up.

Even if I remove them - would it be responsible to dispose of them via general waste?

I hope the story picks up some legs over time, but it is competing with some other doosies right now.

FreeThinker

Hi "belt"

No, it would NOT be reponsible to dipose of them via general waste. That little tiny amount of mercury in just one bulb is sufficient to contaminate 6000 gallons or approx 23000litres of water! (Per Stanford University research.)
Cheers

belt

The electricity commission, where Lance Woodward is listed as a member, has the following relevant documents online:

http://www.electricitycommission.govt.nz/search?SearchableText=cfl&x=5&y=10

An interesting extract:

"The Electricity Commission is calling for proposals to introduce household compact fluorescent lighting programmes nationally. It will spend up to $3 million to expand its household lighting-efficiency programme across New Zealand."

Lance must be in a tough spot when he has to balance shareholders, government and his personal views on this matter.

Rick

"...Imagine 20years down the road with 4.5 million people dumping these things in there everyday rubbish...."

The sad thing is that we don't need to imagine ten years down the track of people dumping these things because they've already been here ten years and this is the first anyone's looked into it.

ian

For the sake of correctness...wrong Lance, belt.

Chuck Bird

Bruce Russell from NewstalkZB has been talking about the bulbs this evening and he has mentioned the Investigate article.

peter

I don't believe this. Are you saying that Leighton Smith has NOT used this as an opportunity to put the boot into the government once again?

It seems that 1ZB is wavering from its most predominant line .. has the Veitchy case got them into some kind of spin?

Posting of the week goes to "belt"

"It was something about the little boy that cried wolf finally coming to town with the most important message ever.

And the towns folk were so used to the little boy trying to be self-servingly sensationalist, that the important message was ignored."

Yes belt this could be it. Trouble is that a story of this importance is not available every month and Investigate is a monthly publication.

ropata

Actual journalism is a rare commodity these days, Is it a conspiracy? No it's just incompetence and lazy prejudice, wash rinse repeat, wash rinse repeat, wash rinse repeat.

As Poneke points out, we are awash in breathless tabloid reportage, and undemanding stories with the most mass appeal, designed to keep the audience happy in order to insert marketing messages into their pliant brains.

For example, the media displays rank hypocrisy when reporting anything religious. With glee they portray the failings of churches or alleged Christians. Is alcohol vilified and ridiculed? It is the fuel for half of the weekly carnage by armed robbers and murderers assaulting the public.

Readers don't care what the facts are, they enjoy lurid stories about mentally disturbed individuals rather than the mundane reality that Christians basically want to mind their own business, and help their neighbours.

Rick

On the button, ropata.

Instead of reporting an immediate public health issue yesterday, they reported that many people use the dishwashing sponge to clean their sports shoes and then put it back on the sink and that girl on girl action is the newest socialite accessory. Wow, heavy duty stuff, huh?.

FreeThinker

Yesterday, 23rd July 08, i went to the Waitakere City Council Refuse Transfer Station to dispose of my maximum allowable limit of 5 ecobulbs (CFLs) and as i knew they contained mercury and would release very toxic mercury vapour if they were broken, put them in a plastic bread bag with a rubberband around the neck and took them to the proper W.C.C. site to dispose of them properly.
But to my HORROR, when i handed them in the bag to the refuse worker, when i asked him , is the correct place to give you these for recycling, he simly gave me a sly grin and tossed the plastic bag some 20 yeards into the distance in Shed 8 towards a general massive rubbish heap. The bulbs in the bag fell short of the pile and smashed in the bag!
So much for a proper handling of your bulbs by your local council!! And how many consumers are going to use their expensive petrol to drive to the proper council site to dispose of them "correctly" and given what i witnessed firsthand yesterday, why would you even bother! This is a total outrage!!!

Moonfish

Never mind the Refuse Transfere Station, I took my 20 or so to the Waitakere Council building. I left them with the article and a note stating I do not want my rates wasted cleaning up mercury contamination in their buildings or landfills. Fat chance they'll listen but the front desk agreed with me, the man at the next desk where I left them just looked confused.

AcidComments

"So much for a proper handling of your bulbs by your local council!! And how many consumers are going to use their expensive petrol to drive to the proper council site to dispose of them "correctly" and given what i witnessed firsthand yesterday, why would you even bother! This is a total outrage!!!"

That would be right.

So much for the 100% pure NZ and Clean & Green BS!

Plus the WCC promotes itself as an Eco-City!

http://www.waitakere.govt.nz/AbtCit/ec/index.asp

belt

Moonfish, I owe you a drink of your choice. Well done!

FreeThinker

Update: I went back to the Waitakere City Council Refuse Transfer Station in Henderson On Saturday morning and when i drove around to Gate 8/Shed 8 armed with the reamining toxic CFL buls from my household (you see i had to make 2 trips!! as you can only drop off 5 per household per visit!!!), there was a green wheeliebin there with a hastily printed off on A4 photocopy paper sign stuck to the side, saying CFL bulbs and fluorescent tubes here.

So, it appers that we are making a wee bit of headway here.
Question is though, what do they do with the wheelie bin full of mercury-laden CFL bulbs when no-one is looking??!!??

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