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Geoff

The National party could well take a lesson from the UK elections.

David Cameron promised the country a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty, then he backed off and disowned the Tory heartland, trying to form a new Conservative party in his own image

The UKIP picked up about 900,000 votes from the disaffected Tories and this has been calculated by Richard North of EUReferendum to have cost the Tories the outright majority.

The National Party is, in turn, turning its back on its heartland voters and will pay dearly for this in the next election of the ETS goes through.

John Boy

Ian has ranted on about Labour for years (and good on him) but National seem little different. This is why conspiracies grow - govts can't accidentally be so stupid.

Shane Ponting

The only thing that changed with the Nat government was the colour scheme....

Geoff

Aussie Budget 2010 -
$652m budget for "renewable energy fund aimed at private sector"

Tez

It sounds to me like in 1995 when in opposition Nick was able to speak his mind, but now in office there are others pulling his strings.

Front up Nick, and tell them where to stick this nonsensical tax!

Geoff

One has to ask why NZ was one of only six countries at Cancun.

Geoff2

Perhaps he's forgotten to take his medication again; remember the episode under Brash?

AcidComments

"One has to ask why NZ was one of only six countries at Cancun."

Easy.

New Zealand has a 'bad habit' of hypocrisy in trying to over reach itself in the socalled World stage for UN Brownie point scoring and becoming somekind of Guinea Pig World leader on certain issues. It makes up for the lack of fortitude, honesty and integrity amongst those in charge of the purse strings. They think they can end up get some cushy posting after they retire from office in the UN or similar!

Whitebread

I can only say, Amen Ian!

I wrote Nick Smith earlier this year, citing references in your book and others on global warming and pointing out that New Zealand's entire economy could be completely shut down and it wouldn't make any measurable difference to world atmospheric CO2 levels. Smith wrote me back saying he'd read Air Con and the science in it was flawed. He didn't say exactly which bits.

He is already on record as stating that fuel will rise by 4 cents/litre immediately and electricity by about 7% and that this will get worse as the scheme proceeds. The ETS is expected to suck about $400 million annually from the economy upon implementation, upwards of $1,500 per household. I certainly can't afford that and most people probably couldn't.

An Investigate magazine issue in October 2009 posed the question, "are they still listening to you?" Well, no they bloody well are not.

Whitebread

And I think that the Nats in office have proven to be just a slightly pinker shade of red than Labour.

AcidComments

"He is already on record as stating that fuel will rise by 4 cents/litre immediately and electricity by about 7% and that this will get worse as the scheme proceeds. The ETS is expected to suck about $400 million annually from the economy upon implementation, upwards of $1,500 per household. I certainly can't afford that and most people probably couldn't"

Yeah and this comes ontop of a likelyhood of an increase on GST on that aswell!

More tax ontop of tax.

Leon

As long as we have a reserve bank and a round table, the game will always be rigged.
Voting for any of them is utterly pointless.

Tanya

National are a real let-down on this issue (and the smacking refendum), amongst others. So what next, vote for no-one, leave NZ for fairer shores or scrape to pay the bills, as usual. How sad. My vote will not be going to National again, or Labour. NZ deserves much better than this...and we're still waiting.

Geoff

..and for those of us that are trying to export to Europe, it is a triple whammy.

Gooner

And don't forget that it was National which signed us up to the Kyoto Protocol.

jaymam

http://www.parliament.nz/en-NZ/PB/Debates/Debates/3/2/8/47HansD_20050510_00001115-Climate-Change-Response-Amendment-Bill-First.htm

JOHN KEY (National—Helensville) :
"This is a complete and utter hoax, if I may say so. The impact of the Kyoto Protocol, even if one believes in global warming—and I am somewhat suspicious of it—is that we will see billions and billions of dollars poured into fixing something that we are not even sure is a problem. Even if it is a problem, it will be delayed for about 6 years. Then it will hit the world in 2096 instead of 2102, or something like that. It will not work."

And do read the other similar pages at the link.

John Boy

NZ deserves much better than this...

No we don't. You get what you deserve. It shows what a degraded society we have become.

Tez

Nick's myth: if you repackage something then then the contents change.

Shakespeare knew about this trick when he wrote: What's in a name? that which we call a rose, by any other name would smell as sweet....

Andy


"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt."

-Bertrand Russell

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