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Psycho Milt

...this man should be a pariah to all New Zealanders, our equivalent of Benedict Arnold rather than a cabinet minister.

As opposed to those men who pointlessly sacrificed 57 New Zealanders at the behest of a foreign govt? At least Goff's foolishness didn't reap a harvest of dead bodies.

In fact many of the worst atrocities of the second world war where committed by Nazi collaborators and these atrocities were perpetrated against their own countrymen.

You could of course replace "Nazi" with "Communist" in there without losing any meaning. OK, call me a pedant.

andrei

  • As opposed to those men who pointlessly sacrificed 57 New Zealanders at the behest of a foreign govt? At least Goff's foolishness didn't reap a harvest of dead bodies.

    It didn't? The boat people didn't happen? The "re-education" camps?
    Pol Pot?

  • You could of course replace "Nazi" with "Communist" in there without losing any meaning. OK, call me a pedant.
    No I wont call you a pedant - the only issue with I might take with that statement is that the Communists who did these things were generally of not invaders but were home grown tyrants. However the hanging of the Vietcong flag was an anachronism, Saigon did not fall to the Viet Cong but an invading army from north Vietnam and thus the appropriate flag to fly would have been the North Vietnamese one. However the Viet Cong flag help perpetuate the lie that Saigon fell to the locals over throwing an oppressive government rather than to an invading army from a foreign land
  • However returning to the first point the 57 New Zealanders who gave their lives in SE Asia were in fact fighting to prevent exactly the sort of tyranny you bought up in your second point.

    Sadly in that part of the world the battle was lost and the major reason for that was the actions of those who opposed that campaign.

    luckily overall Communism was contained and eventually for the most part is now a dead cause.

    And some of the credit for this goes to those 57 New Zealanders who lost their lives in SE Asia and as far as I know none whatsoever to any current New Zealand politician. Please somebody prove me wrong on this.

John Boy

"I don't have to name names do I?"

Yes, please do. I have no time to really follow or study these people so help me out with a name.

A local book seller tells me the original photo of some protestors in a book on the RNZAF Skyhawks has Helen Clark on the edge of it. The book picture is cropped to fit and she was cut out. Pity.

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