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Julie grace

When you have such long term stable readings I don't see how smoothing can result in a spike.
Not that I'm a scientist.
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Thomas Everth

What are you all talking about here?

The raw data from NIWA can be downloaded for free here: http://cliflo.niwa.co.nz/
That NIWA data site has been working for years. NIWA has reminded us on their website about this repeatedly.

When the raw data temp series from 11 stations in NZ that have not been moved are averaged the trend is a clear 1.0 Deg warming since 1930 and if islands are excluded its a 1.1 Deg trend.

So why the hysteria about NIWA not giving you the raw data?

Mr. BoJangles

He's a scientist who is trying to tell us that he carries out logical analysis, and yet he is also proclaiming in the same statement that he is pissed off when people question the authority of his underling scientists. all I can say is - what a jerk.

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>>>He's a scientist who is trying to tell us that he carries out logical analysis, and yet he is also proclaiming in the same statement that he is pissed off when people question the authority of his underling scientists. all I can say is - what a jerk.<<<

Scientists have FEELINGS??!! WTF???! I thought it was all done with robots and machines via Skynet??
Gosh, leaving science to people doesn't sound very smart.

BD

Thomas Everth claims the data is available at http://cliflo.niwa.co.nz/. I just tried to access it. No such luck, broken link to the registration form.

But there was an interesting bit in the "Terms and Conditions":

3. NIWA does not make, and the Recipient acknowledges that NIWA has not made, any representation or warranty (express or implied) as to:
(i) the accuracy or completeness of the Data;
(ii) the use to which Data may be put; or
(iii) the results or outcomes which may be obtained from using the Data.

So... the data isn't accurate or complete, the data shouldn't be used for AGW, and the results from using this data are possibly flawed... :-)

engineer

All these ridiculous meetings/conferences to decide how to tackle global warming,is in itself a farce. A futile exercise in bullsh*t
Al Bore jets around the planet blowing hot air, burning jet fuel as if its going out of fashion,(not counting the hot-air his Apple laptop fan produces spinning 24/7 365 days a year)
As an engineer the answer is simple. STOP the 3-shift & 5-shift systems they have in factories working 24/7, go back to 1-2 shifts,factories closed at night,.thus saving fuel, power-station,/heat emissions etc
STOP the continual use of Microwave transmitters,spewing their VILE pollution in the atmosphere. STOP military AWACS planes flying 24/7 as they have done the past 50 years,burning up Billions of Litres of poisonous cancerous Aviation fuel
Greenpeace should be designated a terrorist style organization like the IRA.
Students of Universities across Europe from 18- 25 years of age who are not paying tax's,/& not in gainful 40 hours per week employment,SHOULD BE BANNED FROM DEMONSTRATING ON ANY STREETS ACROSS EUROPE, & from dictating to Politicians & to real workers in the world what we can & cannot do
The Greenpeace loonies have done NO work, paid NO tax's,are scruffy hippy types. THEY SHOULD SHUT THE F*CK-UP, & leave us real workers alone
Since when do 18-25 year old rampaging, rock-throwing, Greenpeace Hippy types dictate the terms & conditions to skilled Tax-paying Engineers like myself, who have been working hard for my country for 35 years

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Julie grace

Has the data regarding the rest of the 'adjustments' been applied for under FOI?

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So... the data isn't accurate or complete, the data shouldn't be used for AGW, and the results from using this data are possibly flawed... :-)

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Transparency, without it it is like this is being done in the dark of night

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