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Fletch

That is absolutely disgusting! So much for free speech! That's their answer for everything - if you can't answer the question truthfully, shut up the questioner.

AcidComments


"That is absolutely disgusting! So much for free speech!"

That scientist Schneider has very dubious connections anyway and can't be trusted.

He happens to belong to the same Elitist Thinktank Club Al Gore belongs to. So when it comes down to it. He's a good liar, fraudster and control freak Bully like his mate Gore.

That Elitist Thinktank was one of the early 'inventors' of AGW before the UN IPCC and the rest of parrots in the science world took it fully onboard.

Schneider is on record as claiming Ice Ages were coming in the 1970s.

So he's like Al Gore any awkward questions he doesn't like either his minders come in and censor the proceedings.

CM

>>>Schneider is on record as claiming Ice Ages were coming in the 1970s.<<<

In 1971 Schneider was second author on a Science paper with S. I. Rasool titled "Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide and Aerosols: Effects of Large Increases on Global Climate" (Science 173, 138–141). This paper used a 1-d radiative climate model to examine the competing effects of cooling from aerosols and warming from CO2. The paper concluded:

"However, it is projected that man's potential to pollute will increase 6 to 8-fold in the next 50 years. If this increased rate of injection... should raise the present background opacity by a factor of 4, our calculations suggest a decrease in global temperature by as much as 3.5 °C. Such a large decrease in the average temperature of Earth, sustained over a period of few years, is believed to be sufficient to trigger an ice age. However, by that time, nuclear power may have largely replaced fossil fuels as a means of energy production."

Carbon dioxide was predicted to have only a minor role. However, the model was very simple and the calculation of the CO2 effect was lower than other estimates by a factor of about three, as noted in a footnote to the paper.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Schneider#Early_work

So, yet again, it appears that you're misrepresenting the situation.

Fletch

Carbon dioxide DOES have a minor role, as 95% of 'greenhouse gas' is made up of water; however, water can't be taxed so CO2's role has been inflated - like the pockets of those who stand to make the most from this farce.

CM

If that was the case surely we'd see at least ONE revealing email in 13 years of them.

dlr

CM, he blabbed that all over TV and magazines at the time.

I find that he sums up the truth about climate science quite nicely in this stamement he told Discover Magazine in October, 1989:

On the one hand, as scientists we are ethically bound to
the scientific method, in effect promising to tell the truth, the whole
truth, and nothing but -- which means that we must include all the
doubts, the caveats, the ifs, ands, and buts. On the other hand, we are
not just scientists but human beings as well. And like most people we'd
like to see the world a better place, which in this context translates
into our working to reduce the risk of potentially disastrous climatic
change. To do that we need to get some broadbased support, to capture
the public's imagination. That, of course, entails getting loads of
media coverage. So we have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little mention of any doubts we might have.
This 'double ethical bind' we frequently find ourselves in cannot be
solved by any formula. Each of us has to decide what the right balance
is between being effective and being honest. I hope that means being
both.

Ref: http://www.minnesotansforglobalwarming.com/m4gw/2009/09/unearthed-video-global-warming-alarmist-warned-of-ice-age-in-1970s.html

So who's misrepresenting the truth?....

CM

If he 'blabbed' it all over TV and magazines, then a significant amount should be online. Can you point me to something?

BammBamm

The KGB is watching.
Thankfully?
It is somewhat ironic that the World can now trust the Russians to keep everyones best interests, and safety at heart.

I wonder how complicit western intelligence agencies are in this Con?

CM

Have you guys started threatening to kill people yet?

http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/12/11/how-low-can-you-go/

cbullitt

Got something else that will bake your noodle. It's insane.
http://cbullitt.wordpress.com/2009/12/13/briffa-used-one-tree-ghcn-used-one-temp-station-for-a-whole-continent/

AcidComments

"So, yet again, it appears that you're misrepresenting the situation'

CM,

wrong.

He said it on a 1970s TV program about ices ages in the 1970s.

AcidComments

"CM,

wrong.

He said it on a 1970s TV program about ices ages in the 1970s."

CM,

He said Ice Ages were coming on a 1970s TV program. And he was apparently known as an Ice Age Alarmist during that period.

BammBamm

CM:

You are mildly entertaining at best. At worst, you are a knuckle dragging Hick with access to the Net.

However, you are a necessary evil - in that you make the rest of the posters look good, and at least sane.

Thank you CM.

AcidComments

STEPHEN SCHNEIDER
GREENHOUSE SUPERSTAR

During the Ice Age Scare of the 1970s, Schneider was one of it's foremost advocates. He published a book titled "The Genesis Strategy" at this time, warning of the coming glaciation, and wrote glowing a testimonial on the back cover of a popular `Ice Age' book of the time - (Ponte, Lowell. "The Cooling", Prentice Hall, N.J., USA, 1976), in which the author claimed that the climatic cooling from 1940 to the 1970s was but the precursor to the main event - the coming Ice Age.

http://www.john-daly.com/schneidr.htm


The Genesis Strategy (Hardcover)

It's global cooling! It's global cooling!!,

went out of my way to find this book. Boy, am I ever sorry. Can I give this book zero stars? This book contains all of the illumination of a 10 watt bulb. Schneider's main environmental concern in this little text is global cooling! Yikes! Now he's an authority on global warming; so much for credibility. Either Schnieder's an environmental schizophrenic or someone that lives at the public money trough. The former hypothesis is the more paletable of the two possibilities. This book is nothing more than the "nonsensical ravings of a lunatic mind." Don't waste your time. The most positive environmental thing you can do is save a tree by using this book's pages as toilet paper.

http://www.amazon.com/
Genesis-Strategy-Stephen-Schneider/dp/0306309041

CM

>>>He said Ice Ages were coming on a 1970s TV program. And he was apparently known as an Ice Age Alarmist during that period.<<<

Link?

CM

>>>You are mildly entertaining at best. At worst, you are a knuckle dragging Hick with access to the Net.

However, you are a necessary evil - in that you make the rest of the posters look good, and at least sane.<<<

I make you look good by pointing out the wild unsupported conspiracy theories and vague assumptions based on flimsy or no evidence?
Ok then.....

CM

And by 'links' Acid, I mean something even remotely reputable.

AcidComments

"And by 'links' Acid, I mean something even remotely remotely reputable"

CM.

You're starting to be a tiresome troll!

Schneider is charalatan. A 'professional parasite' of the public purse.

I do remember the Ice Age crap in the 1970s.

Mario

These people are hellbent to disgrace the name of science forever just to get their way.
Their way means hell for us because we are all Carbon based and we are all breathing.
If they win our lives will be more miserable then for those people in the former communist lager.
Actually this is a communist agenda since they pretend to save the planet ( in communism they were saving the working class) but actually they will trash the planet and slowly kill billions with starvation and the diseases that would follow.
People should understand that Communism itself actually never died just the reason is different.
This time it is based on something like:
"Climate Salvationism'.
So 'Trip to hell is paved with the good wishes'.

The UN is non democratic body nobody elected them. These people have completely different motives from what they are saying and they have utter contempt for us. This video is just showing in what kind of a system we are going to live if they get their way.
Therefore remaining uncorrupted scientists and all people of the good will and those who can still think should resist the approaching totalitarian regime since there is no alternative any more.

CM

>>>Schneider is charalatan. A 'professional parasite' of the public purse.

I do remember the Ice Age crap in the 1970s.<<<

Nice alliteration but I still don't see any reputable links. Your memory doesn't cut the mustard I'm afraid. Otherwise I'll just remember that you're always wrong and automatically rule out anything you say.

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