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Bamm Bamm

From the New York Times, 128 years of looming polar doom:

• 1881: “This past Winter, both inside and outside the Arctic circle, appears to have been unusually mild. The ice is very light and rapidly melting …”

• 1932: “NEXT GREAT DELUGE FORECAST BY SCIENCE; Melting Polar Ice Caps to Raise the Level of Seas and Flood the Continents”

• 1934: “New Evidence Supports Geology’s View That the Arctic Is Growing Warmer”

• 1937: “Continued warm weather at the Pole, melting snow and ice.”

• 1954: “The particular point of inquiry concerns whether the ice is melting at such a rate as to imperil low-lying coastal areas through raising the level of the sea in the near future.”

• 1957: “U.S. Arctic Station Melting”

• 1958: “At present, the Arctic ice pack is melting away fast. Some estimates say that it is 40 per cent thinner and 12 per cent smaller than it was fifteen years [ago].”

• 1959: “Will the Arctic Ocean soon be free of ice?”

• 1971: “STUDY SAYS MAN ALTERS CLIMATE; U.N. Report Links Melting of Polar Ice to His Activities”

• 1979: “A puzzling haze over the Arctic ice packs has been identified as a byproduct of air pollution, a finding that may support predictions of a disastrous melting of the earth’s ice caps.”

• 1982: “Because of global heating attributed to an increase in atmospheric carbon dioxide from fuel burning, about 20,000 cubic miles of polar ice has melted in the past 40 years, apparently contributing to a rise in sea levels …”

• 1999: “Evidence continues to accumulate that the frozen world of the Arctic and sub-Arctic is thawing.”

• 2000: “The North Pole is melting. The thick ice that has for ages covered the Arctic Ocean at the pole has turned to water, recent visitors there reported yesterday.”

• 2002: “The melting of Greenland glaciers and Arctic Ocean sea ice this past summer reached levels not seen in decades, scientists reported today.”

• 2004: “There is an awful lot of Arctic and glacial ice melting.”

• 2005: “Another melancholy gathering of climate scientists presented evidence this month that the Antarctic ice shelf is melting - a prospect difficult to imagine a decade ago.”

Falafulu Fisi

I asked Sam Villain on the other thread to clarify what he meant by Bohr's law and he simply just disappeared. As someone who has done nuclear physics study (in a real linear accelerator), I am not aware of any Bohr's law that deals with atmospheric physics except his work on atomic physics and quantum mechanics.

I suspect that Sam is/was fibbing, unless he can point me out to some Bohr theory that I have never been aware of.

This guy is everywhere on the net trying to debate scientific issues which is beyond his capability of understanding as a pearl programmer.

Falafulu Fisi

The Oracle at Hot Topic, umm, what's his name? He is trying to promote topics that is also beyond his understanding capability. I mean climate system for someone who's background is in writing children's books and bed-time story.

BaamBamm Bammmy

Hello Falafulu!

Also worked on accelerators.

There is no 'Bohr's Law' that I am aware of ...


>>>the rationale for 30 years isn't that compelling<<<

One guy (Jones) says that and all of a sudden that's written on a tablet somewhere as gospel? Please.
The 30 year period was only ever a general vague stretch of time that was long enough to include pretty much all the natural variations, but short enough to be able to use reputable data.

Desperation (meaningless stuff.


>>>Subsequent studies have confirmed that efforts by Mann's colleagues to shore up his hockey stick were proven flawed as well.<<<

How about with boreholes, stalagmites, and glaciers (and without tree rings)?

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