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Andrew W

Well I'm not sure that it's fair trying to blame people who worked on their own area of the IPCC report for errors in other parts of the report, and to be realistic, a publication of this size will have errors - look a your last book.
So after those that wrote and edited the relevant part of the report, those next in line to take the blame must surely be the proof readers, in the IPCC they're the members of the UN IPCC Expert Reviewers Panel, and inarguably the most prominent member of that panel, and the one who has read all of the IPCC reports and made more comments on the contents of those reports than any other individual, is New Zealander Vincent Gray, so you'd better add him to your witch list, in fact stick him at the top so the goon squad can lynch him first.

Pete

Andrew: proof readers must be next in line to take the blame! Give me a break. The falsity of this IPCC report has been known for some time. As Ian notes above one Austrian expert dismissed it in 2006. The trouble is that there are so many 'well meaning' synchophants (you included) on this band wagon who are just convinced they are right in spite of the data that they are not willing or able to ask the right questions. Any one who does is shouted down and abused.
I agree with Ian that many of the people listed above are policy people - a quick google confirms this. What shocks me is that no one has the integrity to ask the obvious questions about the shonky data and reports.
Andrew, the emperors have no clothes! Time to stop this rear guard defense of shonky science and corrupt scientists and snake oil salesmen.
Now don't get me wrong, I am all for less dependence on fossil fuels, protection of the environment etc, but I am dammed if I am going to stand by and see my kids force fed a diet of politicised crap even if it is in the pursuit of some lofty goal.
Lets stop this rubbish and then get some real science done. Start by a fundamental review of global temperature data, and weather stations and build from there. One thing is for sure no one entity should own this data.
Andrew, if the 'heroes' you are so desperately trying to protect had acted according to the scientific method in the first place we would not be in this position now.
Geez, man you are right in front of the forest but you can't see the trees!

Andrew W

Hi Pete, what are your qualifications in climate science?

Bok

"Hi Pete, what are your qualifications in climate science?"

Wow this is really rich. The majority of scientists involved with the IPCC reports have no background in climate science. The head of the IPCC is a railway engineer and the god of climate change, Al Gore , has no science background at all. Are you for real Andrew?

Or how about the climate scientists that has distanced themselves from the IPCC report or maybe explain your knowledge and qualifications compared to say Christopher Landsea , who was the CHIEF SCIENTIST at the National Hurricane centre and on the IPCC but resigned with the statement :"I personally cannot in good faith continue to contribute to a process that I view as both being motivated by pre-conceived agendas and being scientifically unsound. "

You sanctimonious pratt.

Andrew W

Pete:"Any one who does is shouted down and abused."

"The trouble is that there are so many 'well meaning' synchophants (you included)"

Bok: "You sanctimonious pratt."

It's a simple question, Pete shouldn't be ashamed to answer it.


Bok

It's a simple question, Pete shouldn't be ashamed to answer it.


fair enough then answer my simple question, what is your qualification compared to that Christopher Landsea.

And if qualifications is that important to you, please explain Al Gore?

Simple questions you should not be ashamed to answer them.

Bok

And it you were simply "abused" because you were playing a childish game of schoolyard "oneupmanship" .

You were the one snootaly askin " and your qualification in ..." It was so ill mannered that it was deserving of far worse than I gave. If you want to debate points of view, dont try and bully and intimidate, it is a loser's strategy and speaks of low intellect.

That is why I turned the question back to you.

Now let's hear your answers.. "nothing to be ashamed of..." surely.

Bok

Excuse the bad writing, not native language and did not proof read. now that is bad form.

Andrew W

Failing his answering, I'll assume Pete's interest in this debate is as a layman, as is mine.
I was also wondering if Pete is the Peter who commented at Poneke's.

BammBamm

Simon Hales is at Public Health!
He doesn't have anything to do with Climate Science at all!!


John Hannah is at Surveying!

OMG! This is a serious joke.

Good work Ian!

AcidComments

"John Hannah is at Surveying!

OMG! This is a serious joke.

Good work Ian!"

BammBamm.

Yeah.

It good work if you can get it. Being one of the UN's Toadie IPCC Propagandist Groupies.

John Dierckx

Very nice article part quoted here: http://johndierckx.wordpress.com/2010/01/24/false-alarm-himalaya-gletchers/

Keep up the good work.

I guess that more and more it goes to show that people need to start taking their own responsibilities in finding the truth.

John Boy

"I guess that more and more it goes to show that people need to start taking their own responsibilities in finding the truth. "

That has always been true and even if we start now, which most won't as they will miss Coro, I suspect it is already too late.

Kapow

Good on you Bok.
Enough of this "my qualification is better than yours" garbage. Where are we, in the schoolyard? Grow up.

You are a sanctimonious pratt andrew. Why is it that you think you all have the rights to your version of the "truth" and should tell us what is good for us.

You dont need a climate science degree to see the facts for what they are. And the facts show that we have been misled.

Pete

Andrew: Hi Pete what are your qualifications in climate science?
I have been out all day with my son so I missed all this fun!
Andrew I have no intention of indulging in arguments from authority with you, or indulging in 'my degree is better than yours' type stuff. You will just have to work with logic.
By the way it seems that this whole mess has got messier today.
IPCC chairman Pachauri is hanging to his job by a thread, whilst the stench of fraudulent misrepresentation is in the air. Meanwhile UN IPCC scientists confess to knowing and ignoring fraudulent data. What else needs to be said?

John Dierckx

John Boy,

Sad isn't it?

CM

Bok: "The head of the IPCC is a railway engineer"

He's a little more than that. You're just parroting Ian's misrepresentation without checking yourself.

Mr. Xyz

A relatively tame Hitler parody video

Glaciergate: Hitler's Last Straw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b-6U5MwyDM

mikenz

sod Andrew.
I want to know when we are going to prosecute and sue these bastards for fraud?
Wherever they domicile.
Surely this qualifies as a Global conspiracy against the Human race?
Starting with all the IPCC heads then down to the chapter heads etc etc.

CM

>>>Surely this qualifies as a Global conspiracy against the Human race?<<<

Are you all reading and quoting from the same pamphlets? When is the next meeting?

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