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John Boy

See at last? When it come to politics every colour is red. Man, man, man.

CM

Yeah, screw those smaller nations. What would they know. It's not as they though are relevant to any of this.

Typically, he's bought into the spin and gross exaggerations on the IPCC errors.

AcidComments

"Yeah, screw those smaller nations. What would they know. It's not as they though are relevant to any of this."


Some of those Small Nations can go and get stuffed in the firstplace. They're the ones who've done some of the worst environmental damage to their own countries now they're trying to screw aid money out of Western Nations under the CO2 AGW/CC Scam!

PhilJourdan

While I abhor the whole stampede mentality about AGW, and like the G20 even less, it seems that this will kill it. The smaller countries will not go along with being dictated to by the G20, and so it may finally die.

CM

>>>Some of those Small Nations can go and get stuffed in the firstplace.<<<

Yeah, theyarelosers.

>>>They're the ones who've done some of the worst environmental damage to their own countries now they're trying to screw aid money out of Western Nations under the CO2 AGW/CC Scam!<<<

Yeah they should all go back to where they came from. Stupid foreigners.

AcidComments

"Yeah they should all go back to where they came from. Stupid foreigners."

Yeah CM.

I can just see you with a big grin on your face as you hand some of your tax $$ over to the likes of Mugabe under your contribution of Western CO2 AGW/CC mitigation.

Or giving some of your tax $$ to the Maldives after they wrecked some of their coral reefs by dredging them and then blaming the West for CO2 AGW/CC on sea level rises.

CM

Is that what you read in Air Con, the book that relies on comments on an climbing website as a source (pg 55 if you want to check)?

AcidComments

"Is that what you read in Air Con, the book that relies on comments on an climbing website as a source (pg 55 if you want to check)?"

CM,

I don't have to get information from Air Con to tell me what's been going on in the likes of the Maldives or Tuvalu, re self inflicted environmental damage etc. Let alone other nations jumping on the blame the West CO2 AGW/CC bandwagon!


CM

Acid, what's your opinion about the use of anecdotes from climbers in relation to climate change? Should they they included in any objective assessment? Or does context matter?

AcidComments

"Acid, what's your opinion about the use of anecdotes from climbers in relation to climate change? Should they they included in any objective assessment? Or does context matter?"

CM,

Will ancedotal evidence be valid when it applies to record amounts of winter snow cover being seen from the European Alps to N.America over the last few winters. Or just to reduced snowcover?

Bok

CM
You are now trying to set up a strawman. You just wet yourself because you lot have been found out.

You think you have a social conscious. You dont. Your blind adherence to the AGW philosophy helps in part kill millions of people. Poor people. people who live in small villages. Who survive on less in a year than you spend in a day on your internet.

These people that you "champion" to death. It is pretty despicable really. You see you support Copenhagen and the circus there. 100's of millions of euros spent on self serving nonce s. Money that could have saved lives. There you lot cheered Chavez and Mugabe. These guys will have have directed (as has Castro) all aid into their private accounts. The real people still dies.

There they tried to impose taxes that will make the likes of Gore richer. But you see there is only so much money in the world and aid and food will dry up to help these people. Instead the money will be directed into Carbon Tax. Carbon trading.

But you have gone further than that. Your blind stupidity and pursuit of biofuel, have driven up food prices and made food scarcer.

And before you open your gob, listen to this.

I am from africa, I have worked fought and played with these people. Slept in their huts. I have dived the maldives and seen the devastation. Global warming what a joke.

But you wanted to put up a strawman. So here it is. When you go to sleep tonight, close your eyes and see a 6 year old child standing in the dust. Stomach distended through lack of nutrition.

And think, just for a moment how cool you feel to be the trendy champion of the great AGW race to save the planet from an imaginary foe, and before you go to sleep, tell that child that you are saving the planet, not for him, or his tribe or family, it would be far to late for them. But you are asking that he gives his life, because Al Gore and your heroes says that if he dies, it MIGHT make a difference IF they are right and IF you follow the WORST case scenario in a COMPUTER MODEL.

And tell him that you will keep up the fight against that evil Wishart and that you will win. All that he needs to do is sacrifice his brothers and sisters.

Let us get something straight. Ian believes in fairy tales. His belief in the bible, I just dont get. But what do get, is that at least he is showing real compassion and concern. And that unlike you, he does not believe in killing people who were unfortunate enough to not have been born white in a western country, is an acceptable price to pay for an unproven and now seriously flawed bit of speculation.

CM

>>>Will ancedotal evidence be valid when it applies to record amounts of winter snow cover being seen from the European Alps to N.America over the last few winters. Or just to reduced snowcover?<<<

Why can't you simply answer the question?
(And most of the planet was WARMER than usual over the period you've mentioned, look it up - even your desperate cherry-picking doesn't work. ;-)

CM

>>>You are now trying to set up a strawman.<<<

Explain how I've done that.

>>>You just wet yourself because you lot have been found out.<<<

I've wet myself because of what I've found in Ian's book.
I don't consider that I have a 'lot', and I certainly haven't been 'found out' about anything.

>>>You think you have a social conscious. You dont.<<<

This and the rest of your post is just a generic rant that doesn't relate to me and what I believe at all. What was that about a strawman?

I think your post gets my first ever award of 10 of 10 for sheer stupidity, hypocrisy and banality. Great job Bok!

Bok

Yep just cannot face up to the facts can you. Take some responsibility man. The sheer arrogance that makes you believe that you actually knows what you are talking about, is the same arrogance you display when you "award" me 10 out of 10 for stupidity? What?

That is like the ponsonby panther awarding points for some one not respecting women.

You can bluster but you cannot escape the vision of that child, and you wont.

Unless of course you are just some hack in the employ of some outfit, and you really dont give a damn.

Get off your butt and come with me to Angola in March or up to the Kimberley in two weeks.

Ten out of ten hey! wow thank oh learned one.

Acidcomments

"Why can't you simply answer the question?
(And most of the planet was WARMER than usual over the period you've mentioned, look it up - even your desperate cherry-picking doesn't work. ;-)"

CM,

What's the point of using out of date ancedotal evidence in the 2007 IPCC AR4 report in the firstplace?

CM

>>>Yep just cannot face up to the facts can you.<<<

I keep pointing out the facts and how and why Ian is distorting and misrepresenting. Why don't you start showing me why I'm wrong instead of responding with meaningless generalities?

>>>Take some responsibility man.<<<

Right back at you. Demonstrate for once that you have a clue.

>>>The sheer arrogance that makes you believe that you actually knows what you are talking about, is the same arrogance you display when you "award" me 10 out of 10 for stupidity? What?<<<

It's the only rational response. You want to post garbage, I'll give you points. Yours was the biggest load of garbage so far.

>>>That is like the ponsonby panther awarding points for some one not respecting women.<<<

Yeah, obviously. Exactly the same. That's the analogy of the millenium. 90 years to go but I'm confident it'll stand up.

>>>You can bluster but you cannot escape the vision of that child, and you wont.<<<

Please don't start writing novels. Your use of imagery is appallingly weak and immature.

>>>Unless of course you are just some hack in the employ of some outfit, and you really dont give a damn.<<<

I work in the private sector, assisting clients with getting their projects around environmental controls and restrictions. Not at all relevant to the science behind climate change. Can you make it fit the narrative. I have faith that you'll find a way.

>>>Get off your butt and come with me to Angola in March or up to the Kimberley in two weeks.<<<

Sorry, got two young kids to look after outside day job. Plus, you're an idiot.

>>>Ten out of ten hey! wow thank oh learned one.<<<

You're welcome. You earned it. I don't give them out lightly.

CM

Bok, what's your opinion about the use of anecdotes from climbers in relation to climate change? Should they they included in any objective assessment? Or does context matter?

CM

>>>What's the point of using out of date ancedotal evidence in the 2007 IPCC AR4 report in the firstplace?<<<

You're still not answering the question Acid.

Bok

I apologise to every-one for my outburst, but it annoys me when idiots who sit on their butts at home start talking for people on the other side of the world.

To me they are the lowest for of slime and I have to deal with them all the time.

Do not speak on behalf of some-one that you are too lazy, or do not have the compassion to get over there and actually roll your sleeves up.

I have nothing but contempt for the likes of CM and others.

Bok

And the last post on this.

CM you are a typical wannabe.You work in afield (by your own admission) that is full of make believe. You are neither smart or intelligent. You style of argument is simply a regurgitation of what you have learnt somewhere else. I actually work in these places with these people.

I might be an idiot. But I am an idiot that makes a difference. You are simply some-one that needs to make them self feel better about their lack of action, by regurgitating others theories.

I might be an idiot. But I by god I am an idiot that actually knows what I am talking about because I have experienced it.

"Bok, what's your opinion about the use of anecdotes from climbers in relation to climate change?"

Wow you still dont get it. I pity your clients. No actually in the bullshit field you are in, you are quite posibly the best qualified for the job.

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