One of Australia's most outspoken scientists has this week rubbished the team behind the Large Hadron Collider in Switzerland, describing the project as nothing more than a "nuclear billiards machine" and saying the money should be devoted to paying for more climate change research instead.
Ian Lowe, emeritus professor of science, technology and society at Griffith University in Brisbane, has been in New Zealand for a low-profile crisis meeting on how to get climate change back on top of the public list of concerns.
The meeting brought together not just climate scientists from New Zealand and Australia, but also social scientists who've been asked to come up with strategies on how to manipulate public opinion. Additionally, key sympathetic business leaders like Air New Zealand's Rob Fyfe are understood to have attended.
As part of the conference, the NZ Government funded Science Media Centre, a climate change propaganda unit, organised for select invited media to attend a briefing from Professor Lowe, and NZ government social scientist Karen Cronin.
The briefing is a unique insight not just into the mindset of the climate science propaganda units, but in the sychophantic media willing to push their message unquestioningly.
During the hour long media briefing, Lowe
- ridiculed the scientists working on the Large Hadron Collider, saying money would be better spent by climate scientists
- argued that for propaganda purposes the media should hype-up individual weather events - such as floods in Mozambique - as proof of climate change
- claimed Hurricane Katrina was clearly caused by climate change
- claimed a conspiracy of white, Anglo Celtic elderly males was behind the skeptic movement
- with NZ government social scientist Karen Cronin advocated researching how to foment enough anger in the public that governments who refused to take climate action could be "pushed out of the way" in a political upheaval
NZ Press Association reporter Kent Atkinson asked this leading question, "I’d like to hear about the fickleness of public opinion, it will surely take only one or two major catastrophes directly attributed to climate change to change public opinion and the willingness of politicians to take a longer term view of sustainability and issues such as climate change?"
This prompted Lowe to agree, arguing weather is climate, for the purposes of propaganda, and that Katrina was definitely caused by climate change, click here:
Given that Katrina was not caused by climate change, and that peer reviewed studies have shown Saharan dust has a much bigger role on Atlantic hurricane activity (and I quoted those studies in Air Con ), one can only surmise Lowe is either woefully misinformed or he doesn't care about the facts that get in the way of his fairy stories.
To hear Lowe's conspiracy theory about Anglo-Celtic males, and the media buy-in courtesy of NZPA reporter Kent Atkinson, click here:
To hear Lowe and NZ government scientist Karen Cronin advocating some kind of people-power revolution if necessary, click here:
Staggering stuff. Not content with merely doing the science and presenting facts, inconvenient or otherwise, these people are now actively trying to brainwash the public into a "Berlin Wall" type of political backlash against politicians who stand in the way of the new climate order.
It has often been said that allowing people like this access to schoolchildren in the name of "environmental education" was a stupid idea. Evidence of that can also be found in this clip where a Dunedin climate educator admits her students are now exhibiting "climate rage" that needs to be harnessed:
That such a discussion can come out of taxpayer-funded Government scientists and communicators is incredible. They seem to forget that we elect politicians to make policy, we have no power to elect scientists. Their jobs are safe from public whim precisely because they are supposed to be non-political, in the sense of not abusing public position to advance a political agenda.
If they want to change that...then let's see what the public mood really is...
Bammbamm "Being the only one here who has worked on several beam lines of a nuclear accelerator "
Were you sitting on one when you wrote your last post?
"If Mr Wishart were to check the sanity dipsticks on his motley crew of 'CO2 believers"
Who are you refering to, the only one I can think of is cm
Posted by: Tez | March 15, 2010 at 08:49 PM
Wow can't wait for the MSM to print some articles in the comedy sections of their media.! Seriously any Journalist with a high school education would be cringing when listening to this twaddle, The most one would gain is how Karin Kronin could keep a straight face when espousing her views on men, obviously a Socialist feminist with a warp toward lesbianism and peculiar sense of humor regarding the suspicious Death of the Kennedy's . I can see her job as a define surplus to requirements.
Posted by: PaulsNZ | March 15, 2010 at 09:56 PM
While reading your polemic my initial gut feeling was that Lowe wouldn't have said Katrina was caused by climate change. So listened to the audio. Gues what?
He didn't say anything of the sort.
You are simply full of it Wishart.
Anyone who takes you at your word is a fool.
Posted by: John Lorimer | March 16, 2010 at 11:39 AM
The NZ unit really need go no further than this document from The Tyndall Centre in the UK:
It is the seminal work on climate indoctrination and should be required reading for all NZ journalists and government propagandists.
"The Social Simulation of the Public Perception
of Weather Events and their Effect upon
the Development of Belief in
Anthropogenic Climate Change"
http://www.tyndall.ac.uk/sites/default/files/wp58.pdf
This is a sample from the paper:
"Obviously influenced by the substantive issue, we have labelled the scale we use as belief
temperature. We assume that events (direct and indirect encounters) provide the impetus
for belief change. One should keep in mind, that although we are dealing with a public
construction of reality, the reality per se has not yet manifest. The public are assessing
clues to confirm the conclusions of science. In effect, it is the social construction of
quasi-reality."
Posted by: AS | March 16, 2010 at 11:56 AM
John, you'd be a prat. I
didn't throw up the entire audio grab because it was so long, but he went on to say this:
"Disasters that are clearly attributable to climate change should increase awareness and political pressure to do something but Hurricane Katrina is a worry in that context because it clearly didn't produce that stimulus in the US."
Of course, his blaming Katrina on climate change was already implicit in the grab I published, but then, you are a follower of Ken Perrott so I guess comprehension is not one of your strong points.
Posted by: Ian Wishart | March 16, 2010 at 11:58 AM
Tez:
I was referring to all the 'CO2 Cultists' around the world ... look at their backgrounds.
There is a high percentage of 'unhappy unwell people' ...
Just look who got into climate science in the 1990's ...
Posted by: Bammys Secretary | March 16, 2010 at 02:06 PM
Relative costs?
About 10:1 Climate change : LHR by my reckoning
LHR:
With a budget of 9 billion US dollars (approx. €6300M or £5600M as of Jan 2010), the LHC is the most expensive scientific experiment in human history
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_Hadron_Collider
and climate change research?
Richard North at EURef has been watching this like a hawk:
http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2010/03/five-times-cost-of-manhattan-project.html
Posted by: CHK | March 19, 2010 at 04:39 PM
Aussie Skeptics are over 60's grey haired men?
Jo Nova care to comment?
http://joannenova.com.au/
Posted by: CHK | March 19, 2010 at 04:47 PM
So, is there a mechanism for withdrawing a doctoral degree? "Professor" Lowe is not a scientists as he does not believe in integrity, honesty, or learning the relevant science. He believes on faith, not knowledge - he has drunk the blue Kool Aid.
He might be a "climate scientist" (with this adjective, "scientist" does not have it's real meaning, but means "charlatan"), but he has the whole thing backwards regarding the participants.
Funding of skeptics is a strawman argument. Skeptics are not organized, we just network, and we are barely funded or not at all. It is the "climate change" people who are funded in the many billions. "Climate scientists" open and freely seek big oil funding.
The "climate change" scam is backed by a group of politicians and filthy rich who want to take over the world by creating a false carbon economy, huge transfers of wealth and power to the hands of a few, and ultimately a one-world government. This is not a conspiracy theory - it is published and clear as day, even mentioned in the Copenhagen document they had hoped to have signed last year in Denmark.
Lowe obviously is not interested in the basic science which shows clearly that CO2 cannot and does not drive or threaten the climate in any way. He needs to read up on F Miskolczi and Zagoni's seminal work, very recent, which shows CO2 is quite effectively irrelevant to the climate. Google it, Lowe!
He also should can the Katrina stupidity - it makes him look even dumber than he is.
Lowe is low, intellectually and in integrity.
Posted by: Charles HIgley | March 20, 2010 at 02:29 AM
"The "climate change" scam is backed by a group of politicians and filthy rich who want to take over the world by creating a false carbon economy, huge transfers of wealth and power to the hands of a few, and ultimately a one-world government."
Yep.
And the problem is some of these Iconic socalled Climate Science Charlatans belong to those very same elite clubs and thinktanks outside of science. Shows a lack of integrity or impartiality on their part.
Funny how one of those very elite thinktanks has a string of failed predictions and projections on the fate of Humanity and the outcome of the Planet for Donkeys years and was one of the earlier original pushers of the AGW/CC Dogma. It's also funny how some of those very same Iconic Science Charaltans also have a string of failed pontifications and predictions on the outcome of the Humanity and the Planet for Donkeys years aswell. They often also have another thing in common. Ice Age Doomsayers in the 1970s!
Posted by: AcidComments | March 20, 2010 at 10:26 AM
Falafulu Fisi: I went off half-cocked with an ill-thought out post. Let me clarify: I do not believe in supersymmetry nor most of the particles dreamed up by particle physicists including the Higgs boson or any gravity-related particles. I realise that the constraining fields do not create the vacuum -- I mention the vacuum because in the imperfect vacuum collisions of subatomic particles with remaining molecules in the chamber will affect the beam. These collisions increase with the length of the track. There are no results because there is an upper limit to the size that these accelerators can produce meaningful results.
It's not new particles being discovered but increasingly deluded interpretations about what the sensors are picking up.
For example, take the use of superconducting magnets. They are useful for producing high magnetic fluxes at small diameters, but at large diameters such as that of the track tube what stops them from using ordinary cooled electromagnets? It gives them a good excuse to say the helium coolant leaked and they have no results but a bunch of pretty animations of what the collisions might look like. They have no results! The LHC is just a cash cow. If this was industry taking a year off here or there it would be unacceptable. Only in academia is this level of incompetence allowed.
Everyone has the right to their own religious beliefs and for some it's belief in imaginary particles. And you're welcome to it. All heil science.
Posted by: Paul Clark | May 11, 2010 at 11:09 PM